When Pillowgate came out, I had this song stuck in my head for the next few weeks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X2tVfq67FY
I feel like hacking into Bethel's audio/sound system and change the elevator music to this.
going through a box of old records in my garage i came across this 45 by the great crowd.
it was given to me in the early 70's when i was living in crestline, ca.
i had no way of playing it because i haven't had a turntable in years so i googled it and found this link.
When Pillowgate came out, I had this song stuck in my head for the next few weeks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X2tVfq67FY
I feel like hacking into Bethel's audio/sound system and change the elevator music to this.
have we ever noticed how witnesses are constantly being told that life is something that needs to be "endured", rather that "enjoyed"?.
life is always so tough, so hard, so difficult in "these last days".
"persecution and trials abound".
"WORLD CONDITIONS..." You know when a JW uses those two words successively that the conversation is about to get real dark. Someone hand me a Pez dispenser of Prozac, already.
do you remember the first time you found out "the truth about the truth"?.
yes, it was confronting, shocking and life altering.
yes it was hard to deal with.. but, along with that, many have said that they experienced a sense of thrill, euphoria, or joy when realising the facts about the religion that held us captive mentally and physically for so long.. it was liberating to learn some of the controversial teachings etc.
Me contemplating Googling the Watchtower:
Me after watching a John Cedar's video:
It was then that the eightball of validation, reassurance and sanity I craved so desperately coursed through my veins. The adrenaline and surge of blood pumping through my heart felt like hot lava.
When I was waking up, I thought I was losing my mind. The world didn't make sense. The walls were closing in...
And then I took the plunge and researched online. Yeah, it did cause the floors to tilt briefly, but thanks to places like this forum and the friends I've made along the way, the landing has been a soft one. I'll never look back. #besthighever
"oh i'm not going to worry about it, armageddon will be here by then!".
-including me.
"I'll get around to doing it* in the New System."
*having children, finding a husband/wife, going on a trip, learning a new language, pursuing some classes in the arts, asking an ancient worthy about an obvious f*ck up/inconsistency that betrays the Bible's supposedly infallible nature. Basically living their life and flexing their own thoughts.
we were taught sickness and death is a result of the sin inherited from adam and eve, so why do animals get cancer?
they are supposedly still as big j intended, so therefore cancer is a creation by the big fella himself?.
just an exercise for one's who believe in the whole bible story thing.. (not me)... any others anomalies you can think of ?
Homosexuality in the animal kingdom.
In the instance of giraffes, homexuality is MORE common than heterosexual activity. Bulls, rams and sheep are pretty homo, too. And nearly 20 per cent of the Mallard species of ducks voted for same sex marriage also. There are some female pigeons who will cohabitate a cosy nest, lay their infertile eggs and attempt to incubate them together. I don't know - maybe they should try IVF. Then there's the harsher version of surrogacy practised by the male Black Swans; over a quarter of the males will simply mate with the female just to start their own family. And once she lays her egg, he and his partner will chase her away (I'm guessing they're more off a buff kind of gay) so they can raise their baby swan on their own.
If gayness is so unnatural and detestable to Jehovah God, why is it so rampant in the... erm, NATURAL world?! Too bad we don't see those sorts of nature appreciation videos at the conventions, using them as praise for creation. I'd totally sit back and watch some hot Leviathan on Leviathan action.
hey there all you singles.
it's that time in the show where we all sign in and tell a little about ourselves.
i guess i will get the ball rolling here.. my name is stephanie.
Looks like we lost @Tesbie to JWmatch.com (aka okaystupid.com).
This is such a curious thread. Has anyone actually found love on this discussion forum?
hey there all you singles.
it's that time in the show where we all sign in and tell a little about ourselves.
i guess i will get the ball rolling here.. my name is stephanie.
Yo @Tesbie, you came to the wrong forum looking for that kind of brother.
Sorry, girl.
i am interested in getting a list of lies that the watchtower has said or wrote in the past that could actually be proven to be as such, or, for the very least, deliberately misleading.
1. in a morning worship lecture in 2015, stephen lett said .
"rejecting false stories designed to separate us from jehovah's organization.
Hey @StephaneLaliberte, I noticed you used a recent example of deception in your opening post. The existing Governing Body's lies and misleading statements might be the best examples we can use to wake friends up with, I think. There's no "light getting brighter" fallback that way.
Check out the September 2015 Broadcast, hosted by David Splane. At eight minutes in, you can catch Splane in a verifiable LIE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQF1IXSguaI&t=540s
For those who don't watch the segment, basically what's happening between 08:00-09:30 is, Splane makes the unique claim that in 1914, the anointed people (Rutherford, Franz, Henschel, et. al.) were the "only ones who saw these signs and understood them correctly." This, apparently, is used as a proof that these were God's people on earth back then.
However, a trip down WT lane will reveal that in 1914, the doctrine being taught was that Jesus' parousia had occurred in 1874 . Rutherford, Franz and Co. were NOT looking for Christ's presence since they believe he'd already arrived four decades prior! According to Zion's Watchtower, Christ had indisputably begun ruling as king in 1878. And this continued to be taught all the way until 1932.
You remember Rutherford's campaign slogan back in the 1920's? Come on everybody, say it with me in three, two, one...
"ADVERTISE, ADVERTISE, ADVERTISE."
And what was he advertising, exactly? ...That Jesus had already come in 1874 and had started ruling as king in 1878.
Now, for David Splane to go on JW Broadcasting over a century later and say that those WT Presidents "CORRECTLY UNDERSTOOD" the sign, we can deduce this is nothing but a bold faced lie. This goes beyond misleading the JW audience. It is a despicable coverup and a rewriting of history.
it's amazing what you can stumble upon on the internet these days.
i just came across this site.
maybe you already knew about it, but i did not.
It's interesting when you think how Governments (both past and present) have put a ban on Jehovah's Witness literature. All these people want to do is spread their message of truth...
And here you have the Governing Body actively trying to sue Websites like avoidjw.org for merely publicizing their literature and offering these same "truths" for everyone to partake!
I'm telling you, back in the 60s, any governmental ban on the WT publications would have the Slave blowing the persecution whistle. And NOW that we have literature from the 60s FREELY available and distributable, God's sole channel of "Truth" appeals to this corrupt system's law to ban it! Go figure?!
If that's not poetic irony, I don't know what is.
https://www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/drunk-woman-who-threatened-jehovahs-1451367.
oh, deary me........this is quite a sad story.. make of it what you will..
She mentioned something about her son dying and her husband not giving her a Christmas present... I don't know, but I kind of got the impression her that her son died from WT doctrine and her JW husband won't acknowledge her during the holidays? If so, it would have been more than the Vodka that triggered her violent rage :S.